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Homie don't play Q3, ya loser.

And PB gets hacked all the time...

You're very ignorant baker. What you call "solid evidence" is swiss-cheese, hacked nearly on a daily basis. Punkbuster is not a pro-active anti-cheat program, it's reactive. And reactive at best means that it protects against KNOWN game hacks, or highly public hacks. It can do virtually nothing against someone creating their own hack and keeping it for themselves. Quake anti-cheat is the same way. PB gets updated constantly, so what does that tell you? People are still cheating and creating cheats and PB spends a lot of effort trying to keep up with at least the known hacks. That's the best we can hope for. It's not fool proof, and it is no where near "solid evidence" of someone being legit. You have no idea what you're talking about. But please, continue to be smug in your ignorance.

There's evidence of one of my so-called allegations just proven..what do you say to that?

Oy yes and btw, please grace us with your great wisdom, and tell us how to find out if someone is legit? I can't wait to hear your answer.

I'm an IT Security expert and deal with people trying to cheat systems on a daily basis, you're just a n00b.

Baker you are dealing with a person lacking a frontal lobe he has a 6th sense because there is no sign of the other 5.

Before:

I'm an IT Security expert and deal with people trying to cheat systems on a daily basis.

After

I am a self-proclaimed, self-taught network guy working in a computer store in a small town in Iowa and tell people who don't know where the numlock key is to not use "password" as their password and to never give their password to a stranger.

Truth Extractor:

My name is Urdead. I have Rune Quake autoexec stuff in my config. I do not know any programming languages. I barely know HTML. I do not know C. I do not know QuakeC. I do not know how to compile Quake. I do not know the mechanics of how ProQuake cheat-free works. I do not know how f_modified works.

I know little about that which I speak of. The fact I know little about that which I speak of means I am not knowledgeable enough to "lose" an argument or be proved wrong.

Despite having no credentials and having made no significant "works" (an engine, a mod, a utility) and no programming abilities, I know more about Quake than Slot Zero, JPG and Fuh.

If I decide you cheat, and I decide this about many people, there is no way you can prove you are not a cheater because I am the best Quake player ever.

Furthermore, I whine and complain about being killed by 2-frag HPB campers with 250 ping on servers with spawn shields. I will non-stop complain about this even on servers where camping is clearly permitted instead of spend the $10 bucks per month to host my own server.

I frequently have quit Quake and swore to never play/post in forums again, but yet I never leave.

Some people will believe what I have to say because they have not known me long enough.

Hi, I'm urdead. I don't work in a "computer store", I work for a large 23-state corporation in Des Moines, Iowa. I have 15 years of networking and security experience, professional, and 25 years personal experience. I've programmed in many different languages, but really dislike programming. I even know how to use edlin...LOL! . Baker once touched a piece of code and then thought he knew it all. He thinks IP means "I gotta pee". How ignorant he is now. He has no idea how people cheat, yet he thinks it's impossible, because cheat-free is almighty! It just like saying, "I can never be hacked because I have a firewall". It's amazing how many people get hacked everyday because of this false and ignorant sense of security. He should goto work for one of the Universities who get hacked all the time. He'd fit right in. He never thinks outside the box. He doesn't realize that Angel himself has hacked cheat-free 3 times. He doesn't realize that programs outside the program can help cheaters, such as OS video drivers that produce wireframes. He doesn't realize that things like this are not seen by the client. He doesn't realize this because he ignorently does not think outside his lil box.

Nothing in online games is cheat-proof (there is allways the device
driver level of things to hack on) (urdead: Hmmm...this looks familiar, messing with the device drivers...sorta like video drivers...hmmm...maybe I know what I'm talking about huh?), but that would actually be more
secure than the game as it originally shipped, because hex edited patches
wouldn't work any more. Someone could still in theory hack the closed
source programs, but that is the same situation everyone was in with
the original game.

Haha. Well wouldn't expect much from a couple of dumbasses. First of all, Slot has always cheated. Secondly, WeirdQ caught cheating. Proved you wrong again. As for the rest, you will never be sure they haven't cheated, with the exception of magnesium, who I never thought cheated.

As for the rest, you will never be sure they haven't cheated, with the exception of magnesium, who I never thought cheated.

you can't win the cheat-free argument.

Is that all you have? Because it amounts to nothing.

What about it? And that has to do with....what?

One second you say you never accused Magnesium or cheating, the next post Magnesium posts a link to where you did.

You don't like profanity, but engage in it yourself.

You keep bringing up that WeirdQ has allegedly used a bot on a public server, while you, yourself, have done so.

I'll probably humor your responses as long as you have them, although I think we've long passed the point where a casual reader would view you in a positive light, which is what I wanted to illustrate.

Anger, big ego, hypocrisy, vanity, name calling ... you aren't much different than JL or the other crackpots we used to have lurking around Quake.

WeirdQ was BANNED from playing at Shmack. Care to venture a guess as to why?