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I must know more of this +SAttack you speak of.

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http://www.runequake.com/docs/Playing.htm

If I understand this right this binds certain keys to rl or gl for one quick shot then switch back to whatever weapon was selected before?


I use WASD setup for movement. So binding something to S or A is outta the question.


How would I go about binding a quickshot gl to my Z key? Bind z +sattack6 // quick grenade?

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I've tried this out and it does work. I now have quick grenade bound to a key. I'll experiment more with this as I get use to it.

Any suggestions?

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I use this ...

BIND CTRL "IMPULSE 7"
BIND ALT "BESTWEAPON 8 5 4 3 2 1" < --- ProQuake/JoeQuake 0.15/Qrack only
BIND SHIFT +SATTACK6

Bestweapon is somewhat similar to Yugo's impulse 10 but I think most players prefer bestweapon over impulse 10. Bestweapon 8 5 4 3 2 1 selects whatever weapon is available in that order, in this case it selects the lightning gun (8 ) or super nail (5), etc. based on which one has ammo, so if I have the lightning gun and cells for it, it always selects the lightning gun.

This reduces the number of keys I need. Anyone not using a setup similar to the one Yugo indicated or mine is going to have to press 1 thru 8, which is a long and slow trip on the keyboard, so they aren't going to be able to switch weapons as quickly.

But my +sattack6 is a little different ...



This means that my +sattack6 works on any server, including non-RuneQuake/xCTF/IHOC ones.

/ note that if I connect to any of the servers that support +sattack6, it actually wipes my aliases, but I have a key that re-executes my config.cfg that I can press if that happens.

Thanks for your suggestions Baker, although ctrl alt and shift are kinda in awkward positions for me.I'll experiment.

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I've never used any of these special commands in my game, and I always use the axe hook (press 1 twice) and I get along just fine

Someone can help me here though.. I used to have an alias set up for when I join RuneQuake servers

alias "impulse 22" "impulse 1;wait;impulse 1;"

to mimic the axe hook command from ctf servers. The problem is when used it doesn't always work properly. Sometimes it would only change to axe and not to the hook. Any ideas on how to create this alias to make sure it always works? I stopped using it because I'd be in the middle of a fight and instead of the hook coming up the axe would come up

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I was a big CTF player in the beginning of my quake life. I used this alias to work on both Rune servers and CTF servers...

+hook impulse 1; wait; wait; impulse1; +attack
-hook -attack;bestweapon 8 5 4 3 2 1

There are two wait commands because servers need at least 1 cpu tic to pass by before it would accept another command sometimes it would drop a packet that contained my wait command, so another was needed.

When joining a runesever, of course your +hook command would be overridden by the rune server, but the +hook runeserver command is almost identical to the above (server side). You need to re-execute your config as Baker suggest when using this method.

Also need to make a bind of course

bind favoritekeyhere +hook

One last note on scripts. In the beginning of quake days our PC's were Pentium I&II's. Horsepower was a very big issue. The more scripts you ran the slower your refresh rates ended up being. This is not a problem today, but it is still worthy of noting.

Cc

My GL quick attack bind doesn't work on servers like Bomber. Is this where I use the



But say I have it bounded to the "Z" key? I change 'impulse 6' to 'impulse Z'?

What the "-attack;wait;" part for?

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bind z +sattack6

OK. Thanks Baker.

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You bind keys to aliases/commands...

You write aliases to do all your work.

+sattacks are aliases (server side).

There is always an action when turning it on then an action when turning it off. Each alias having an on and off position. On being the +whatever. Off being the -whatever.

You can roll your own alias and integrate other aliases into it. For example:

+moveinforward +forward; color 0 0
- moveinforward - forward; color 1 1

+movenfire +moveinforward;+sattack6
-movenfire -moveinforward; +sattack7

+movenrljumpgrenade +jump;+sattack7;wait;+movenfire
-movenrljumpgrenade -jump;-movenfire

bind "z" +movenrljumpgrenade

In the above example I created essentially 3 aliases and 1 bind.

You only bind your on alias to a key. So I bound the +movenrljumpgrenade to the Z key. Your off alias "-movenrljumpgrenade" will execute when you let go of the key/button.

Now to step through what your z key will do in the above example (try to follow):

when you hit the z key and hold it down...it will move your guy forward, change your colors to white, jump, fire a rocket, wait for a moment, and pitch a grenade. When you let go of the Z key it will stop moving forward, stop shooting rl and gl, and change your color to brown.

I could of just did this alias:

+myattack +forward; color 0 0; +jump; +sattack6; wait; +sattack7
-myattack -forward; color 1 1; -jump

This essentially does the same thing. I just wanted to demonstrate that you can embed one alias into another alias, into another alias and it will all still work. You can name your own alias names as long as they don't already exist server side. Server side aliases will always supercede client side aliases.

The quake command guide is actually just a bunch of server side aliases that either come by default with quake or has been built by Developers like Slot to do special common quake game task (Like +sattacks and +Hook) The +hook alias removes you from needing the commonly written "impulse1; wait; impulse1; +attack". That is the norm on CTF servers.

With your config you can create any combination of aliases on your end (client side) that will effectively use these commands to your advantage. Some people think that this is cheating, but its not. You are just simplifying common quake game play task.

Finally the bind command has always been fickle to me. Sometimes Quake likes the key in qoutes, sometimes not.

No quotes: bind z +sattack6
with quotes: bind "z" +sattack6

If you can't get one to work....try the other...


Finally in your example...the wait is needed because it tells the server that you have let go of this key and are now capable of hitting another key. Of course impulse 6 is like holding the number 6 down on your keyboard. You need to tell the server that you have released this key....hence the wait command must be executed next...

Hope this helps someone!

Cc

bind z +sattack6
alias +sattack6 "-attack;wait;impulse 6;wait;+attack"

I put this in my autoexec.cfg but when I got onto bomber my ping was 300+ and my guy went nutso shooting and wouldn't stop until someone told me to type -attack in console.

I removed it and things went back to normal.

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You have to use the whole thing. If you don't have the -sattack6 alias in your config, your player will never stop firing.

Steve, try this ...



That should make the "a" key select the hook on both RuneQuake and CTF servers as I believe "weapon9" will select the hook on Rune Quake servers.

Thanks Baker. I'll give this another try.

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Try this:

"-attack;wait;impulse 6;wait;+attack"
alias -sattack6 "-attack;wait;bestweapon 7 8 5 4 3 2 1"
alias "weapon9" "impulse 22"
bind "a" weapon9
bind z +sattack6
alias +sattack6 "-attack;wait;impulse 6;wait;+attack"
+moveinforward +forward; color 0 0
- moveinforward - forward; color 1 1

+movenfire +moveinforward;+sattack6
-movenfire -moveinforward; +sattack7

+movenrljumpgrenade +jump;+sattack7;wait;+movenfire
-movenrljumpgrenade -jump;-movenfire

bind "z" +movenrljumpgrenade
bind s +sattack7 // quick rocket
bind d +sattack6 // quick grenade
BIND CTRL "IMPULSE 7"
BIND ALT "BESTWEAPON 8 5 4 3 2 1" < --- ProQuake/JoeQuake 0.15/Qrack only
BIND SHIFT +SATTACK6
+hook impulse 1; wait; wait; impulse1; +attack
-hook -attack;bestweapon 8 5 4 3 2 1
alias +sattack6 "-attack;wait;impulse 6;wait;+attack"
alias -sattack6 "-attack;wait;bestweapon 7 8 5 4 3 2 1"

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Thanks Baker. This worked.

We should set up another TU - SNS match sometime soon.

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Glad it worked for you.



I agree. It is sort of unfortunate that the discussion of "what mod to play next" came up.

The reason is that people underestimate how incredibly difficult it is to get these things setup to begin with. The SNS vs. TU match was something that was talked about for nearly 5 months before it actually happened.

CA mod is fine with us.

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